1 00:00:44,91 --> 00:00:48,20 Good evening my name is Dr Richard Curtis I'm 2 00:00:48,21 --> 00:00:51,59 a professor of philosophy here in town and I did my Ph D. 3 00:00:51,60 --> 00:00:57,60 With colleagues of Dr Griffin in Claremont California Dr Griffin is the author of 4 00:00:57,61 --> 00:01:01,20 eleven books questioning various aspects of the official nine eleven myth and has 5 00:01:01,21 --> 00:01:06,51 written or edited dozens of others in his long and distinguished career since two 6 00:01:06,52 --> 00:01:10,32 thousand and four Dr Griffin has been known as the dean of nine eleven studies and 7 00:01:10,33 --> 00:01:13,82 the conscience of the nine eleven truth movement. He is 8 00:01:13,83 --> 00:01:19,83 a courageous and tenacious fighter for truth justice and reason for his talk 9 00:01:19,84 --> 00:01:26,10 tonight nine eleven why do Bill Moyers and Robert Perry believe in miracles 10 00:01:26,80 --> 00:01:31,05 please welcome me now welcome back to Seattle Dr David Ray Griffin 11 00:01:31,90 --> 00:01:44,36 are 12 00:01:44,37 --> 00:01:50,51 as it has now been almost ten years since the nine eleven attacks. 13 00:01:51,65 --> 00:01:57,35 A few people from the beginning started saying that the official like out of the 14 00:01:57,36 --> 00:02:01,47 attacks according to which they were carried out by foreign Muslims in other 15 00:02:01,48 --> 00:02:08,15 countries was faults and that nine eleven was an inside job carried out by people 16 00:02:08,16 --> 00:02:14,17 in agencies in our own government and emerging movement to make this case came to 17 00:02:14,18 --> 00:02:20,42 be called the nine eleven truth movement. This movement argued from the beginning 18 00:02:20,80 --> 00:02:21,81 that nine eleven was 19 00:02:21,82 --> 00:02:27,57 a false flag attack designed to allow the Bush Cheney administration and its 20 00:02:27,58 --> 00:02:34,16 Pentagon to attack Afghanistan and then Iraq but most of the traditional 21 00:02:34,17 --> 00:02:41,05 anti-war journalists such as Noam Chomsky George Monbiot Norman Solomon 22 00:02:41,47 --> 00:02:48,31 and Matt Taibbi. Along with the riders that counterpunch in these times the nation 23 00:02:48,42 --> 00:02:54,59 Mother Jones the progressive and Democracy Now did not endorse the nine eleven 24 00:02:54,60 --> 00:03:01,22 truth movement most of them in fact attacked it. In the first years to be sure 25 00:03:01,90 --> 00:03:02,88 we did not have 26 00:03:02,89 --> 00:03:08,92 a very impressive membership and their movement had few professionals in the 27 00:03:08,93 --> 00:03:15,92 relevant disciplines such as physics architects architecture and engineering but 28 00:03:15,93 --> 00:03:21,90 in two thousand and five physics professor Stephen Jones started explaining why the 29 00:03:21,91 --> 00:03:27,88 World Trade Center buildings could not have come down without explosives due to 30 00:03:27,89 --> 00:03:33,63 some books and coverage by C.-Span professional organizations began to form 31 00:03:33,79 --> 00:03:39,41 including Architects and Engineers for nine eleven Truth by now we have 32 00:03:39,42 --> 00:03:45,63 a dozen professional organization including firefighters for nine eleven truth 33 00:03:45,68 --> 00:03:50,82 intelligence officers for nine eleven Truth journalists eleven Truth medical 34 00:03:50,83 --> 00:03:55,88 professionals for nine eleven Truth military officers for nine eleven Truth 35 00:03:56,42 --> 00:04:01,07 political leaders for nine eleven Truth religious leaders for nine eleven Truth 36 00:04:01,63 --> 00:04:07,38 scientists for nine eleven Truth and veterans for nine eleven Truth the nine eleven 37 00:04:07,61 --> 00:04:14,28 truth movement is now very impressive in both science and professional membership 38 00:04:14,80 --> 00:04:19,24 progressive journalists in general have not availed themselves of the evidence 39 00:04:19,51 --> 00:04:25,01 provided by the nine eleven truth movement to argue against the legitimacy of the 40 00:04:25,02 --> 00:04:31,25 so-called war on terror if any major journalist could have been expected to do 41 00:04:31,26 --> 00:04:37,56 so it would have been Bill Moyers. His two thousand and seven programme on the 42 00:04:37,57 --> 00:04:43,53 secret government exposed the ways in which presidents have deceived the people to 43 00:04:43,54 --> 00:04:49,46 promote war and another two thousand and seven program buying the war 44 00:04:50,25 --> 00:04:55,60 showed that the media instead of exposing truths that could have prevented the war 45 00:04:55,61 --> 00:05:02,53 and Iraq served as cheerleaders. However while driving home the 46 00:05:02,54 --> 00:05:09,47 fact that the media failed to expose Saddam Hussein's lack of weapons 47 00:05:09,48 --> 00:05:16,34 of mass destruction Maurier's failed to expose Osama bin Laden's lack of 48 00:05:16,35 --> 00:05:23,23 responsibility for the nine eleven attacks. And then in two thousand and eleven 49 00:05:23,86 --> 00:05:30,43 he attacked the nine eleven truth movement after criticizing Rush Limbaugh and Fox 50 00:05:30,44 --> 00:05:36,39 News for providing dissent from Asian that undermines the truth needed for 51 00:05:36,40 --> 00:05:43,32 democratic self-government more years added. This information is not unique to the 52 00:05:43,33 --> 00:05:48,88 right like other journalists I have been the object of malevolent assaults from the 53 00:05:48,89 --> 00:05:55,26 nine eleven Truth hers for not reporting their airtight case proving that the Bush 54 00:05:55,27 --> 00:06:02,04 administration conspired to bring about the attacks on the World Trade Center. And 55 00:06:02,05 --> 00:06:08,98 speaking about this airtight case Moyers was of course using sarcasm considering 56 00:06:08,99 --> 00:06:14,100 this case anything but airtight in fact he said that the truth 57 00:06:15,85 --> 00:06:19,79 having no real evidence simply cherry picked 58 00:06:20,38 --> 00:06:26,81 a few supposed anomalies to build an inside job story line. 59 00:06:29,25 --> 00:06:36,11 In criticizing this case Maurier's was paraphrasing. Independent Journalist 60 00:06:36,15 --> 00:06:43,05 Robert Perry who said lacking any real evidence to the truth is have built their 61 00:06:43,06 --> 00:06:49,94 case on alleged anomalies in the collapse of the buildings and drawing on Perry. 62 00:06:51,05 --> 00:06:57,58 Maurier's appeal to one of the best of the end append journalists. Given Perry's 63 00:06:57,59 --> 00:07:02,81 commitment to truthful journalism combined with his awareness that the October 64 00:07:02,82 --> 00:07:09,24 surprise became relegated to the status of bogus conspiracy theory only because of 65 00:07:09,25 --> 00:07:15,87 lying politicians and careless and dishonest journalist we would have expected him 66 00:07:15,88 --> 00:07:21,36 to engage in meticulous reporting about the nine eleven truth movement to dissent 67 00:07:21,73 --> 00:07:28,50 from the official story about the nine eleven attacks we would've expected 68 00:07:28,51 --> 00:07:34,93 him to be suspicious of the official like out because it was provided by the Bush 69 00:07:34,94 --> 00:07:40,52 Cheney administration which is now known to have lied about Iraq. 70 00:07:42,57 --> 00:07:46,97 And we would have expected Perry to be even more suspicious about the official 71 00:07:46,98 --> 00:07:52,60 story of nine eleven because the chief of the lying politicians in the October 72 00:07:52,61 --> 00:07:59,20 surprise case Lee Hamilton served as the Democratic co-chair of the nine 73 00:07:59,21 --> 00:08:03,86 eleven Commission Moreover Perry could have learned in 74 00:08:03,87 --> 00:08:08,57 a book on the commission by New York Times writer Philip Shenon that Hamilton is 75 00:08:08,58 --> 00:08:15,37 duplicitous ways continued in his new role. Hamilton together 76 00:08:15,38 --> 00:08:21,26 with Republican co-chair Thomas Kane appointed Philip Zelikow to be the 77 00:08:21,27 --> 00:08:27,70 commission's executive director. Even so that like our was essentially 78 00:08:27,74 --> 00:08:34,52 a member of the Bush White House Hamilton also with Cain concealed from the 79 00:08:34,53 --> 00:08:37,64 staff the fact that Cal had written 80 00:08:37,68 --> 00:08:44,13 a detailed outline of the commission's final report complete with chapter headings 81 00:08:44,40 --> 00:08:50,75 headings and headings before the staff even had its first meeting. 82 00:08:52,83 --> 00:08:59,25 For all of these reasons we would expected Perry as well as more years to have done 83 00:08:59,29 --> 00:09:05,72 good reporting about the nine eleven attacks but instead used bad reporting to 84 00:09:05,73 --> 00:09:11,48 attack the nine eleven truth movement claims that nine eleven was an inside job 85 00:09:13,52 --> 00:09:20,31 both Moyers and Kerry as we saw earlier said that truth had rejected the official 86 00:09:20,32 --> 00:09:26,64 account of nine eleven on the basis of alleged or supposed anomaly 87 00:09:27,81 --> 00:09:34,68 anomalies coming from the word normals refers to occurrences that are exceptions 88 00:09:34,69 --> 00:09:41,59 to the norms rules or regularities in saying that the nine eleven Truth Movement 89 00:09:41,60 --> 00:09:48,59 speaks of supposed or alleged anomalies in the collapse of the World Trade Center 90 00:09:49,55 --> 00:09:54,68 Moyers and Perry were saying that the official account according to which the 91 00:09:54,69 --> 00:10:00,52 buildings were brought down by the airliners and the resulting fires contained no 92 00:10:00,85 --> 00:10:07,84 real anomalies no exceptions to the regularities of physics and chemistry 93 00:10:08,71 --> 00:10:15,52 no miracles. In truth the official account of the destruction of the World Trade 94 00:10:15,53 --> 00:10:22,31 Center contains many anomalies and some of them are so obviously 95 00:10:22,59 --> 00:10:29,04 and violently contrary to the laws of science that they must be called 96 00:10:29,38 --> 00:10:36,03 miracles and so far as Moyers and Piri in-doors the official account of the 97 00:10:36,04 --> 00:10:42,34 destruction of the World Trade Center they accept all of these miracles I will 98 00:10:42,35 --> 00:10:49,29 point out six of them first. When people talk about the World Trade 99 00:10:49,30 --> 00:10:54,05 Center they usually have in mind the Twin Towers but 100 00:10:54,06 --> 00:10:56,36 a third building came down that day 101 00:10:57,44 --> 00:11:04,44 a forty seven story building two blocks from the Twin Towers World Trade Center 102 00:11:04,45 --> 00:11:11,43 seven. Which came down at five twenty one in the afternoon. Many 103 00:11:11,44 --> 00:11:17,61 people have not even known that building seven came down because it was seldom if 104 00:11:17,65 --> 00:11:24,11 ever shown on television after that first day and it was not even mentioned 105 00:11:24,15 --> 00:11:30,20 in the nine eleven Commission's report. Why this silence 106 00:11:31,26 --> 00:11:36,55 on the one hand scientists working for the government needed to say in accord with 107 00:11:36,56 --> 00:11:42,70 the claim that the nine eleven attacks were engine ired by al-Qaeda terrorists but 108 00:11:42,71 --> 00:11:48,43 the World Trade Center was not destroyed by explosives but was entirely destroyed 109 00:11:48,44 --> 00:11:53,51 by the airliner crash. And the resulting fire 110 00:11:55,70 --> 00:12:00,17 on the one hand it was hard for the government scientist to give this explanation 111 00:12:00,18 --> 00:12:04,04 for building seven because it was not hit by 112 00:12:04,04 --> 00:12:08,46 a plane. It seemed that the building must have been brought down by 113 00:12:08,47 --> 00:12:13,68 a fire alone. But fire had never brought down 114 00:12:13,69 --> 00:12:19,88 a building of this type New York Times reporter James Glanz calling the collapse of 115 00:12:19,89 --> 00:12:26,05 Building seven mystery said experts said no building like that 116 00:12:26,06 --> 00:12:32,47 a modern steel reinforced high rise had ever collapsed because of an uncontrolled 117 00:12:32,48 --> 00:12:39,14 fire worse yet for the if official account. The fact that Building 118 00:12:39,15 --> 00:12:40,47 seven was not hit by 119 00:12:40,48 --> 00:12:46,46 a plane meant that there was no jet fuel to ignite big fires throughout the 120 00:12:46,47 --> 00:12:53,13 building. There were not many fires and the one what they were were not very big. 121 00:12:55,19 --> 00:13:00,37 Trying to make building seven seem similar to the Twin Towers defenders of the 122 00:13:00,38 --> 00:13:06,32 official account suggested that flaming debris from the collapse of the North Tower 123 00:13:06,76 --> 00:13:12,90 ignited diesel fuel stored in the building turning buildings into 124 00:13:12,91 --> 00:13:19,79 a towering infernal so hot that its steel beams and columns were weakened Fema 125 00:13:20,15 --> 00:13:26,30 which wrote the first official report about the World Trade Center called this it's 126 00:13:26,31 --> 00:13:32,100 best I part us it's. But Fema at it this hypothesis had 127 00:13:33,04 --> 00:13:33,62 only 128 00:13:33,87 --> 00:13:40,55 a low probability of occurrence. Which of course is scientific speak 129 00:13:40,56 --> 00:13:47,07 for there's no way that could have happened. Popular 130 00:13:47,08 --> 00:13:52,73 Mechanics nevertheless promoted this hypothesis telling its readers that the 131 00:13:52,74 --> 00:13:58,50 official report by nest the National Institute of Standards and Technology 132 00:13:59,52 --> 00:14:05,71 would say that building seven's diesel fuel had fed the fires for up to seven hours 133 00:14:05,71 --> 00:14:12,22 . And its second effort to make building seven's collapse similar to that of the 134 00:14:12,23 --> 00:14:18,03 Twin Towers Popular Mechanics said that although this building was not hit by 135 00:14:18,04 --> 00:14:25,04 a plane it was far more compromised by falling debris than the 136 00:14:25,12 --> 00:14:31,99 fema report indicated. Popular Mechanics thereby intended 137 00:14:32,00 --> 00:14:37,11 to refute the nine eleven truth movement to claim that the official account is 138 00:14:37,12 --> 00:14:43,85 implausible by virtue of pre-trained building seven as the only steel framed high 139 00:14:43,86 --> 00:14:50,77 rise to have come down because of fire alone so they are saying it wasn't 140 00:14:50,78 --> 00:14:57,77 just from fire alone it was from this enormous. Destruction of the much of the 141 00:14:57,78 --> 00:15:04,73 building however when ist finally released its building seven report in 142 00:15:04,74 --> 00:15:11,51 two thousand and eight it had rejected Popular Mechanics two fold explanation in 143 00:15:11,52 --> 00:15:18,31 terms of diesel fuel and structural damage NIST said fuel oil 144 00:15:18,32 --> 00:15:19,86 fires did not play 145 00:15:19,87 --> 00:15:26,62 a role in the collapse of World Trade Center seven. NIST also said other than 146 00:15:26,66 --> 00:15:32,88 initiating the fires in World Trade Center seven the damage from the debris from 147 00:15:32,88 --> 00:15:39,86 the North Tower had little effect building seven said NIST report was 148 00:15:39,87 --> 00:15:44,19 the first known instance to fire causing the total collapse of the tall building 149 00:15:45,42 --> 00:15:51,51 NIST there buying said exactly what Popular Mechanics had assured its readers NIST 150 00:15:51,55 --> 00:15:58,04 would not say. So therefore if World Trade Center seven was brought down by fire 151 00:15:58,51 --> 00:16:05,40 without the aid of explosives this was definitely an anomaly. If more 152 00:16:05,41 --> 00:16:11,57 isn't Piri endorse the official view of this building do they not there by 153 00:16:11,76 --> 00:16:16,61 endorse a miracle. I turn now to 154 00:16:16,62 --> 00:16:21,91 a second anomaly which even more clearly violates the laws of science. 155 00:16:24,16 --> 00:16:30,76 Building seven collapsed symmetrically meaning that it came straight down. 156 00:16:32,03 --> 00:16:38,81 How being an almost perfectly horizontal roof line. In order for this 157 00:16:38,85 --> 00:16:45,61 metrical collapse to occur all eighty two of the steel columns supporting the 158 00:16:45,62 --> 00:16:52,51 building had to fail simultaneously. It is difficult to 159 00:16:52,52 --> 00:16:59,43 imagine how this symmetry could have resulted without explosives perhaps 160 00:16:59,44 --> 00:17:05,97 people may think that if the building had been entirely engulfed by fire so that 161 00:17:05,98 --> 00:17:11,53 the fire with the metrical all eighty two of its columns might have failed 162 00:17:12,21 --> 00:17:14,18 simultaneously producing 163 00:17:14,19 --> 00:17:21,06 a symmetrical collapse history teaches however that it is impossible 164 00:17:21,07 --> 00:17:22,94 for fire to cause 165 00:17:22,98 --> 00:17:28,83 a steel framed building to collapse. It would have been even more obviously 166 00:17:28,84 --> 00:17:32,77 impossible for the fires of building seven being on only 167 00:17:32,78 --> 00:17:35,42 a few floors to have produced 168 00:17:35,46 --> 00:17:41,63 a symmetrical collapse to believe these asymmetrical fires produced 169 00:17:41,64 --> 00:17:47,05 a symmetrical collapse would be to believe in 170 00:17:47,06 --> 00:17:53,54 a miracle. The fire also could not explain the sudden onset of buildings 171 00:17:54,11 --> 00:18:00,23 collapse even if we believe that the fire could have caused the steel to lose its 172 00:18:00,24 --> 00:18:06,79 strength the fire would have weakened the steel gradually causing it to 173 00:18:06,80 --> 00:18:12,96 start sagging but they did not one moment the building was 174 00:18:12,97 --> 00:18:19,74 perfectly immobile the next moment as videos show it was coming down at 175 00:18:19,75 --> 00:18:24,67 full speed as Australian scientist Frank 176 00:18:24,68 --> 00:18:29,12 a leg had observed there is no sign of 177 00:18:29,13 --> 00:18:35,14 a slow start that would be expected if collapse was caused by the gradual softening 178 00:18:35,43 --> 00:18:41,71 of the steel. These two characteristics of buildings collapse the symmetrical 179 00:18:41,72 --> 00:18:46,34 pattern and the sudden onset or characteristics of 180 00:18:46,35 --> 00:18:52,89 a controlled implosion in which incendiaries and explosives are used to 181 00:18:52,90 --> 00:18:58,49 slice the building steel support columns so as to cause the building to cause 182 00:18:58,64 --> 00:19:02,27 straight down the reason to implode 183 00:19:02,28 --> 00:19:08,97 a building rather than simply causing it to fall over sideways is to avoid damaging 184 00:19:09,01 --> 00:19:14,23 nearby buildings engineering an implosion in the words of 185 00:19:14,24 --> 00:19:20,36 a controlled demolition website is by far the trickiest type of explosive project 186 00:19:20,76 --> 00:19:21,61 which only 187 00:19:21,62 --> 00:19:28,36 a handful of blasting companies in the world possess experience to perform. 188 00:19:29,35 --> 00:19:35,77 Mark Laws old the president of Controlled Demolition Incorporated has explained why 189 00:19:35,77 --> 00:19:37,36 . To bring 190 00:19:37,37 --> 00:19:43,53 a building down so no other structure is harmed the demolition must be completely 191 00:19:43,54 --> 00:19:50,32 planned using the right explosives and the right pattern of laying the charges 192 00:19:51,39 --> 00:19:57,57 if Moyers and Piri hold that building seven came down without the aid of explosives 193 00:19:57,57 --> 00:20:03,55 . Then they are stuck with the conclusion that scattered fires in this building 194 00:20:03,59 --> 00:20:04,15 produced 195 00:20:04,16 --> 00:20:10,83 a collapse that perfectly imitated the kind of controlled implosion that could be 196 00:20:10,84 --> 00:20:12,24 performed by only 197 00:20:12,25 --> 00:20:18,88 a few companies in the world they are stuck in other words with American. 198 00:20:20,46 --> 00:20:26,57 Three. A third feature of Building seven is collapse would need to be classified as 199 00:20:26,58 --> 00:20:32,53 a miracle if we accept the view that the building was brought down by fire this is 200 00:20:32,54 --> 00:20:38,96 the fact that the building came down in absolute freefall for over two seconds 201 00:20:39,75 --> 00:20:45,13 although the nine eleven truth movement has long been pointing out that this 202 00:20:45,14 --> 00:20:47,73 building descended at the same rate as 203 00:20:47,74 --> 00:20:54,59 a free falling object at least virtually So NIST had long denied this 204 00:20:55,17 --> 00:21:02,13 as late as August two thousand and eight when NIST issued its report on Building 205 00:21:02,14 --> 00:21:03,34 seven in the form of 206 00:21:03,35 --> 00:21:09,83 a draft for public comment it claimed that the time it took for the floors to come 207 00:21:09,83 --> 00:21:16,75 down was approximately forty percent longer than the computed freefall 208 00:21:16,76 --> 00:21:23,19 time. This NIST added was consistent with 209 00:21:23,20 --> 00:21:30,03 physical principles meaning consistent with the laws of physics. As 210 00:21:30,04 --> 00:21:36,10 this statement implied any assertion that the building did come down in freefall 211 00:21:36,44 --> 00:21:42,18 would not be consistent with basic laws of physics assuming of course that 212 00:21:42,19 --> 00:21:48,85 explosives were not used charm Sunder who is in charge of nearest World Trade 213 00:21:48,86 --> 00:21:55,60 Center reports explained why the fact the building seven came down much slower than 214 00:21:55,61 --> 00:22:02,39 freefall under sad is not at all unusual because there was structural 215 00:22:02,40 --> 00:22:05,70 resistance that was provided and you had 216 00:22:05,71 --> 00:22:12,13 a sequence of structural failures that had to take place everything was not 217 00:22:12,38 --> 00:22:16,48 instantaneous. However. 218 00:22:19,32 --> 00:22:25,15 Sunders claim was challenged by physicist David Chandler sunders forty percent 219 00:22:25,16 --> 00:22:31,59 longer claim Chandler said contradicted publicly visible easily 220 00:22:31,64 --> 00:22:36,12 measurable quantity. Chandler then provided 221 00:22:36,12 --> 00:22:43,02 a video on the Internet showing that by measuring this publicly visible 222 00:22:43,06 --> 00:22:49,50 quantity anyone understanding elementary physics could see that for 223 00:22:49,51 --> 00:22:50,69 about two and 224 00:22:50,70 --> 00:22:56,81 a half sack at the Excel aeration of the building is indistinguishable from 225 00:22:57,09 --> 00:23:03,95 freefall. Given its usual behavior we might have expected it 226 00:23:03,96 --> 00:23:10,33 simply to ignore Chandler's challenge but in its final report 227 00:23:11,35 --> 00:23:17,78 NIST admitted freefall. Dividing the building's descent into three 228 00:23:17,82 --> 00:23:24,58 stages nearest described the second phase as. Three fold the sand over 229 00:23:24,59 --> 00:23:31,39 approximately eight stories that gravitational acceleration for approximately 230 00:23:32,03 --> 00:23:35,15 two point two five seconds two and 231 00:23:35,16 --> 00:23:42,11 a quarter seconds mistery by accepted Chandler's position except for 232 00:23:42,12 --> 00:23:48,83 stating that the time in which the building was in free fall was only two point 233 00:23:48,93 --> 00:23:51,74 two five rather than two point five rather than two and 234 00:23:51,75 --> 00:23:52,79 a quarter other than two and 235 00:23:52,80 --> 00:23:59,09 a half seconds trivial difference and this thereby affirmed without explicitly 236 00:23:59,10 --> 00:24:05,77 admitting it that if no explosives were used the dissent of Building seven was 237 00:24:05,81 --> 00:24:12,59 inconsistent with the principles of physics. Chandler 238 00:24:12,60 --> 00:24:19,39 explained why saying free fall meant you achieved if there is zero resistance to 239 00:24:19,40 --> 00:24:24,70 the motion. The top floor of building seven would have encountered tremendous 240 00:24:24,71 --> 00:24:30,40 resistance from the steel structure of the lower forty six floors 241 00:24:31,73 --> 00:24:38,54 and less that structure had been removed by explosives John cinder himself assuming 242 00:24:38,55 --> 00:24:42,34 that explosives were not used had said in August that 243 00:24:42,35 --> 00:24:47,43 a free fall the sound of building seven would have been impossible because 244 00:24:47,44 --> 00:24:53,91 a free falling object would be one that has no structural components below it to 245 00:24:53,92 --> 00:25:00,50 offer resistance but in November. NIST 246 00:25:00,68 --> 00:25:06,99 stated and it final report exactly what Sunder had explained to be 247 00:25:07,29 --> 00:25:13,86 impossible while continuing to insist that no explosives were used 248 00:25:14,31 --> 00:25:21,17 NIST now stated that building seven came down in freefall for over two seconds 249 00:25:21,95 --> 00:25:28,70 and in making that change NIST no longer used the language and this is 250 00:25:28,71 --> 00:25:35,30 consistent with physical principles that phrase they had used repeatedly in the 251 00:25:35,78 --> 00:25:41,53 preliminary report they canceled every one of those so they didn't they didn't 252 00:25:41,72 --> 00:25:48,13 explicitly assert that what they were saying was consistent 253 00:25:48,39 --> 00:25:55,22 with physics so they expire implicitly admitted that what they're now saying 254 00:25:55,52 --> 00:26:02,34 is inconsistent that freefall without explosives is inconsistent with physics 255 00:26:03,12 --> 00:26:07,01 so therefore NIST implicitly declared that 256 00:26:07,02 --> 00:26:10,63 a miracle had happened. Before. 257 00:26:14,28 --> 00:26:19,64 Miracles are also implied by the official account of the destruction of the Twin 258 00:26:19,65 --> 00:26:25,85 Towers according to this account they came down because of three and only three 259 00:26:25,86 --> 00:26:32,50 causes the airplane impacts which cause structural damage the ensuing fires. 260 00:26:33,71 --> 00:26:40,60 Which were initially fed and spread by jet fuel and gravity. One of the 261 00:26:40,61 --> 00:26:46,54 miracles implicit in this account is that although each building had two hundred 262 00:26:46,55 --> 00:26:52,82 eighty seven steels the port columns two hundred forty perimeter columns and forty 263 00:26:52,83 --> 00:26:59,10 seven massive core columns. And although explosives were not used to remove the 264 00:26:59,14 --> 00:27:04,45 columns each building came down as NIST put it essential 265 00:27:04,46 --> 00:27:11,13 e in freefall. NIST tried to explain this by saying that each 266 00:27:11,14 --> 00:27:17,38 airliner took out several perimeter and core columns out its area of impact and 267 00:27:17,39 --> 00:27:22,41 also created huge fires which began weakening the steel after 268 00:27:22,42 --> 00:27:27,97 a period of time fifty seven fifty six minutes for the South Tower and one hundred 269 00:27:27,98 --> 00:27:33,99 two minutes for the North Tower the massive top section of each building. 270 00:27:35,02 --> 00:27:41,15 At and above the fire in impact floors fell down on the lower section which could 271 00:27:41,16 --> 00:27:42,10 not resist 272 00:27:42,11 --> 00:27:49,01 a tremendous energy released by the downward movement. So you 273 00:27:49,02 --> 00:27:51,38 had the plane going in and knocking out 274 00:27:51,48 --> 00:27:57,24 a hole in the building and so then you divide the building into the top part and 275 00:27:57,26 --> 00:28:04,05 the lower part and the argument was then and pretty soon the top part fell 276 00:28:04,06 --> 00:28:10,66 down on the lower part and that's what caused the whole building to collapse. 277 00:28:13,26 --> 00:28:19,86 The. Lower section is claimed was unable to stop 278 00:28:20,02 --> 00:28:26,66 or even slow the falling mass. I sometimes use the 279 00:28:26,67 --> 00:28:31,86 analogy you're flying you're driving down the freeway in your little. 280 00:28:33,79 --> 00:28:36,78 Sports car and you don't notice there's 281 00:28:36,79 --> 00:28:43,54 a semi stopped in the freeway ahead of you and so going ninety at eighty miles an 282 00:28:43,55 --> 00:28:49,64 hour you run into the back of the semi. Well of course you know what would happen 283 00:28:49,84 --> 00:28:54,76 if you start pushing the semi down the freeway at eighty miles an hour. 284 00:28:57,94 --> 00:29:02,86 That's exactly what they're arguing. Happened here. 285 00:29:04,71 --> 00:29:10,68 This theory as Jim Hofmann has said requires us to believe that the massive steel 286 00:29:10,69 --> 00:29:16,46 frames of the lower structure of the towers provided no more resistance to falling 287 00:29:16,47 --> 00:29:22,93 rubble than would air. A letter to NIST by scientists stated 288 00:29:23,45 --> 00:29:29,21 basic principles of engineering would dictate for example that conservation of 289 00:29:29,22 --> 00:29:35,24 momentum principle would dictate that the damage steel structure be low the 290 00:29:35,25 --> 00:29:41,53 collapse initiation zone would at the very least resist and 291 00:29:41,54 --> 00:29:48,33 slow the downward movement of the story about. This is basic 292 00:29:48,37 --> 00:29:55,37 this is. Sixth grade physics this is I think Newton you know this 293 00:29:55,38 --> 00:29:59,45 is nothing fancy. There is indeed 294 00:29:59,46 --> 00:30:04,79 a good chance they continued but the structural strength of the steel work below 295 00:30:04,99 --> 00:30:05,49 would 296 00:30:05,55 --> 00:30:13,07 a rest that is stop the downward movement of the stories above all together. In 297 00:30:13,08 --> 00:30:18,29 claiming therefore that each of the Twin Towers came down essential ie in freefall 298 00:30:19,14 --> 00:30:25,85 without the aid of explosives NIST implied enormous violations of the 299 00:30:25,86 --> 00:30:32,79 conservation of momentum the descent of each of the Twin Towers in close to 300 00:30:32,80 --> 00:30:36,62 freefall was there for America. 301 00:30:40,31 --> 00:30:46,31 Five. Each of the Twin Towers produce still another miracle. 302 00:30:47,34 --> 00:30:49,49 But collapse of each tower began with 303 00:30:49,50 --> 00:30:55,99 a massive explosion near the top during which huge sections of 304 00:30:56,00 --> 00:31:02,69 perimeter columns were rejected five hundred to six hundred 305 00:31:03,00 --> 00:31:09,39 feet. Some of these sections of steel implanted themselves in neighboring 306 00:31:09,81 --> 00:31:15,05 buildings as can be seen in videos and photographs. 307 00:31:16,10 --> 00:31:22,78 Enormous force would have been needed to eat jacked huge sections of steel that 308 00:31:22,79 --> 00:31:29,60 far out what could have produced this horse According to 309 00:31:29,61 --> 00:31:36,50 NIST as we have seen there were only three causal factors the airplane impacts 310 00:31:36,78 --> 00:31:43,02 the fires and gravity. The airplane impacts could not have produced the 311 00:31:43,03 --> 00:31:49,31 objections because those impacts had occurred an hour or more 312 00:31:49,56 --> 00:31:56,44 earlier the horizontal ejections could not have been produced by gravity 313 00:31:56,84 --> 00:32:02,89 because gravity pulls things straight down so the objections must have been 314 00:32:02,91 --> 00:32:09,49 produced by fire. And certainly fire could produced 315 00:32:09,73 --> 00:32:16,45 horizontally Jackson's by causing jet fuel to explode but the judge fuel as NIST 316 00:32:16,46 --> 00:32:19,70 itself pointed out had burned up within 317 00:32:19,71 --> 00:32:25,61 a few minutes so what could have happened an hour or more later. 318 00:32:27,53 --> 00:32:29,87 Explosives such as R.D.X. 319 00:32:29,91 --> 00:32:36,73 Or nano thermite could explain these horizontal ejections. According to news 320 00:32:36,74 --> 00:32:43,25 however explosives did not contribute to the destruction of the Twin Towers 321 00:32:44,03 --> 00:32:50,22 these horizontally Jackson's therefore must be regarded as constituting yet another 322 00:32:50,62 --> 00:32:57,28 miracle six. More years in Perry probably 323 00:32:57,63 --> 00:33:03,92 did not think of the fires in the World Trade Center as having miraculous powers. 324 00:33:05,27 --> 00:33:11,67 But knew that count implies they did three professors were stir 325 00:33:11,68 --> 00:33:17,00 Polytechnic Institute issued a report about 326 00:33:17,01 --> 00:33:23,23 a piece of steel recovered from buildings and debris stating that it had 327 00:33:23,27 --> 00:33:30,19 undergone interior granular melting. And expanded version of this report 328 00:33:30,23 --> 00:33:32,83 which contained a description of a similarly 329 00:33:32,84 --> 00:33:39,62 a road it piece of steel from one of the Twin Towers was included as an appendix 330 00:33:40,20 --> 00:33:45,79 to the first official report on the destruction of the World Trade Center which was 331 00:33:45,80 --> 00:33:52,42 issued by Fema in two thousand and two. A New York Times story noting that 332 00:33:52,48 --> 00:33:59,14 parts of those pieces of steel had melted away even though no 333 00:33:59,15 --> 00:34:05,44 fire in any of the buildings was believed to be hot enough to melt steel outright. 334 00:34:07,22 --> 00:34:13,18 This story said that these discoveries constituted perhaps the greatest mystery 335 00:34:13,60 --> 00:34:20,07 uncovered in the investigation. An article and 336 00:34:20,54 --> 00:34:27,24 were. Magazine entitled The deep mystery of melted steel 337 00:34:27,61 --> 00:34:31,90 said. Steel which has 338 00:34:31,91 --> 00:34:38,44 a melting point twenty eight hundred degrees Fahrenheit. May weaken 339 00:34:38,60 --> 00:34:45,43 and banned but does not melt during an ordinary office fire yet 340 00:34:45,94 --> 00:34:52,78 a one inch column was reduced to half fans thickness its edges which are 341 00:34:52,79 --> 00:34:53,77 curled up like 342 00:34:53,78 --> 00:35:00,70 a paper scroll have been thin to zero most razor sharp missed gaping holes 343 00:35:00,93 --> 00:35:05,74 some larger than a silver dollar lets light shine through 344 00:35:05,96 --> 00:35:12,07 a formally solid steel flange this Swiss cheese appearance 345 00:35:12,70 --> 00:35:19,03 shocked all of the fire wise professors who expected to see distortion and 346 00:35:19,04 --> 00:35:25,32 binning but not holes one of these professors said that the steel 347 00:35:25,55 --> 00:35:32,52 appeared to have been partly evaporated in extraordinarily high temperatures. 348 00:35:34,25 --> 00:35:40,49 But the steel had actually evaporated not merely melted was also reported by 349 00:35:40,50 --> 00:35:43,58 a University of California professor speaking of 350 00:35:43,59 --> 00:35:49,33 a horizontal I beam from building seven he said 351 00:35:50,29 --> 00:35:57,12 parts of the flat top of the I once five eighths of an inch thick 352 00:35:57,80 --> 00:36:04,58 had they just. The melting point of steel is twenty eight hundred degrees 353 00:36:04,63 --> 00:36:11,44 Fahrenheit and the boiling point is approximately five thousand degrees 354 00:36:11,94 --> 00:36:18,81 Fahrenheit. But new said that the fires were ordinary hydrocarbon based 355 00:36:18,89 --> 00:36:24,78 building fires the maximum temperature of which would be eighteen hundred. 356 00:36:25,85 --> 00:36:32,17 Degrees farenheit. If Morrison Perry accept the official story about the World 357 00:36:32,18 --> 00:36:38,26 Trade Center buildings they must believe that these fires had miraculous powers. 358 00:36:39,60 --> 00:36:44,18 Further evidence of these miraculous powers was found by the R.J. 359 00:36:44,19 --> 00:36:48,07 League Group A scientific research organization that was hired by 360 00:36:48,47 --> 00:36:55,01 a bank to prove for insurance purposes that the dust contaminating its buildings 361 00:36:55,02 --> 00:37:01,99 after nine eleven had resulted from the destruction of the World Trade Center the 362 00:37:02,00 --> 00:37:02,61 R.J. 363 00:37:02,62 --> 00:37:08,82 Lead group showed that the dust in the bank shared the unique chemical signature 364 00:37:09,40 --> 00:37:15,77 of the World Trade Center dust in general part of which was spirital iron 365 00:37:16,13 --> 00:37:19,90 particles the existence of these particles R.J. 366 00:37:19,91 --> 00:37:26,18 Lee said prove that iron had melted during the World Trade Center event 367 00:37:27,28 --> 00:37:32,32 and yet the melting point of iron is as we've seen twenty eight hundred degrees 368 00:37:32,36 --> 00:37:39,06 Fahrenheit whereas ordinary building fires could not have exceeded eighteen hundred 369 00:37:39,07 --> 00:37:42,40 degrees Fahrenheit. The U.S. 370 00:37:42,41 --> 00:37:44,57 Geological Survey So here we have 371 00:37:44,58 --> 00:37:51,19 a government agency made an even more astounding discovery that 372 00:37:51,23 --> 00:37:57,80 Mollett dean of the melting point of which is four thousand 373 00:37:57,93 --> 00:38:04,33 seven hundred and fifty three degrees Fahrenheit had also melted 374 00:38:06,04 --> 00:38:06,63 all of D.N.A. 375 00:38:06,64 --> 00:38:13,29 Most known. Metal with about the highest. Melting Point. 376 00:38:14,95 --> 00:38:20,72 So if more than Piri reaffirm the official story they must assume that the World 377 00:38:20,73 --> 00:38:27,60 Trade Center fires and miraculous powers. More is in Kerry 378 00:38:27,80 --> 00:38:34,54 have not of course explicitly endorsed miracles in fact they would 379 00:38:34,55 --> 00:38:40,25 surely deny the destruction of the World Trade Center involved in any miracles but 380 00:38:40,26 --> 00:38:46,63 in so far as they accept the official account. Their views of the six phenomena I 381 00:38:46,64 --> 00:38:51,93 have discussed violate principles of physics so these phenomena would have to be 382 00:38:51,94 --> 00:38:58,68 classified as miracles why would more years and Perry accept the official 383 00:38:58,69 --> 00:39:04,71 account even though it implies miracles one answer might be that they like many 384 00:39:04,72 --> 00:39:09,87 other journalists have accepted the official view out of fear for their reputations 385 00:39:10,59 --> 00:39:16,67 but more years than Piri have repeatedly shown the FE have the courage to stand up 386 00:39:16,68 --> 00:39:20,50 for truth as they see it regardless of the consequences. 387 00:39:23,68 --> 00:39:24,87 And that's the point of 388 00:39:25,00 --> 00:39:30,99 a large large part of the point of the stories I was telling you about them. So why 389 00:39:31,00 --> 00:39:37,37 did Perry who was wrongly charged with making baseless accusations about the 390 00:39:37,38 --> 00:39:43,27 October surprise. Why did he wrongly charge truth with making 391 00:39:43,31 --> 00:39:50,24 unsubstantiated and bizarre claims about controlled demolitions as 392 00:39:50,25 --> 00:39:54,47 we have seen there is nothing to the stand she hated about the claims that the twin 393 00:39:54,48 --> 00:40:01,34 towers and building seven were brought down by means of explosives Perry claims 394 00:40:01,35 --> 00:40:08,17 that scientists and engineers have provided plausible explanations for the official 395 00:40:08,18 --> 00:40:10,16 view. But only 396 00:40:10,17 --> 00:40:16,83 a handful of scientists and engineers have stated in print that they see nothing 397 00:40:16,84 --> 00:40:23,01 wrong with the official view and most of them have been depended upon the 398 00:40:23,02 --> 00:40:29,80 government remember here Upton Sinclair's famous dictum it is 399 00:40:29,81 --> 00:40:30,91 difficult to get 400 00:40:30,92 --> 00:40:36,92 a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it 401 00:40:36,92 --> 00:40:43,65 . By contrast thousands of professionals including architects 402 00:40:43,66 --> 00:40:49,15 engineers firefighters intelligence officers military officers and scientists have 403 00:40:49,16 --> 00:40:55,93 publicly stated that the official view cannot be true. I mentioned 404 00:40:56,32 --> 00:41:03,24 firefighters. One hundred eighteen of the five hundred members of the 405 00:41:03,25 --> 00:41:10,11 New York. Fire department. Were asked to give oral histories 406 00:41:10,12 --> 00:41:15,36 to to give their reports of what they experienced that day they were not asked 407 00:41:15,37 --> 00:41:19,74 question who just told to tell us what you experienced that day no leading 408 00:41:19,75 --> 00:41:26,45 questions. One hundred eighteen of them volunteered the 409 00:41:26,46 --> 00:41:33,03 information and. They experienced what seemed to be explosives 410 00:41:34,01 --> 00:41:39,69 and in the buildings. Perry has unfairly been called 411 00:41:39,70 --> 00:41:44,52 a nut because of his persistence in laying out the evidence for the October 412 00:41:44,53 --> 00:41:51,08 surprise Why did he on the basis of an adequate study turn around and say 413 00:41:51,44 --> 00:41:52,89 to label the truth or 414 00:41:52,89 --> 00:41:59,51 a version of the nine eleven events nobody would seen an understatement. 415 00:42:01,60 --> 00:42:07,90 Maurier's has done equally poor reporting about nine eleven observing that America 416 00:42:07,95 --> 00:42:14,81 seems more and more able to deal with reality more is rightly said in his two 417 00:42:14,82 --> 00:42:18,95 hundred and eleven lecture that many people inhabit 418 00:42:18,99 --> 00:42:25,23 a closed belief system on whose door they have hung the Do Not Disturb 419 00:42:25,43 --> 00:42:32,35 sign. But more is own belief system has evidently made him unable to deal with the 420 00:42:32,36 --> 00:42:38,19 reality revealed by the nine eleven truth movement more is biased against nine 421 00:42:38,20 --> 00:42:42,85 eleven Truth Movement was manifested three years before his two thousand and eleven 422 00:42:42,86 --> 00:42:48,81 statement on feb one two thousand and eight in preparation for the presidential 423 00:42:48,85 --> 00:42:55,77 election the Bill Moyers Journal asked viewers what one book 424 00:42:56,19 --> 00:43:03,01 do you want your next president to read the next week Moyers named the three books 425 00:43:03,03 --> 00:43:09,25 receiving the most votes while adding We detected only one organized campaign 426 00:43:09,30 --> 00:43:12,78 against a certain book and we disqualified it as 427 00:43:12,79 --> 00:43:19,30 a result the book in question viewers learned the following week with my two 428 00:43:19,31 --> 00:43:25,75 thousand and seven book Debunking nine eleven the bunking which was the book that 429 00:43:25,79 --> 00:43:32,60 actually received the most votes by far. Was the alleged 430 00:43:33,45 --> 00:43:39,64 organized campaign the real reason why this book was disqualified it would seem not 431 00:43:40,40 --> 00:43:47,32 for three reasons first more years had not in explaining the contest 432 00:43:47,58 --> 00:43:54,36 said anything about disallowing organized campaigns. In the second place 433 00:43:54,74 --> 00:44:01,56 the so-called organized campaign consisted entirely of one person writing 434 00:44:01,57 --> 00:44:08,14 a statement on nine eleven blogger saying that he suspected most members of the 435 00:44:08,15 --> 00:44:13,03 nine eleven truth movement would be recommending one of Griffin's books he 436 00:44:13,04 --> 00:44:18,54 suggested that they agree on one of them and he suggested the most recent book 437 00:44:19,14 --> 00:44:25,32 Debunking nine eleven debunking I myself played no role in this campaign 438 00:44:25,61 --> 00:44:32,26 indeed I did not even know about the contest until it was long over in the third 439 00:44:32,27 --> 00:44:37,54 place one of the book authors cam Michaels organized 440 00:44:37,55 --> 00:44:44,43 a campaign on behalf of his own book The Art of War On his 441 00:44:44,44 --> 00:44:50,95 website he wrote Bill Moyers is asking viewers to recommend the one book 442 00:44:51,31 --> 00:44:56,03 that the next president of the United States should take to the White House if you 443 00:44:56,04 --> 00:45:01,84 feel so inclined please recommend the art of non-war as 444 00:45:01,85 --> 00:45:08,18 a result Michael's book came in third in the voting. 445 00:45:09,31 --> 00:45:13,67 Fact That was just used by the publisher to promote the book 446 00:45:15,57 --> 00:45:20,88 however the Bill Moyers Journal did not eliminate Michael's book from the 447 00:45:20,89 --> 00:45:27,60 competition in spite of his self organized campaign and justifying the 448 00:45:27,61 --> 00:45:34,53 exclusion of my book because of signs of an orchestrated campaign more years said I 449 00:45:34,54 --> 00:45:35,43 wouldn't call that 450 00:45:35,47 --> 00:45:41,97 a conspiracy but I wouldn't call it fair either but if unfairness was the reason 451 00:45:41,98 --> 00:45:47,55 why my book was excluded the Michael's book the campaign for which could have 452 00:45:47,59 --> 00:45:53,71 easily been detected should have been excluded. It would seem therefore 453 00:45:54,47 --> 00:45:59,16 that my book was excluded because Bill Moyers did not want to announce that his 454 00:45:59,17 --> 00:46:06,07 program had recommended my book with its claim that nine eleven was an inside job. 455 00:46:08,46 --> 00:46:13,90 By taking more years treatment of my book in two thousand and eight together with 456 00:46:13,91 --> 00:46:20,83 his two thousand and eleven attack on truth others we can see that he like Perry 457 00:46:21,82 --> 00:46:27,10 has made charges against the nine eleven Truth Movement that are not justified by 458 00:46:27,18 --> 00:46:34,09 the empirical evidence I have yet another question for more years and Perry given 459 00:46:34,10 --> 00:46:39,73 their negative characterization of people they call truth. So it is more your 460 00:46:39,75 --> 00:46:45,55 statement that they employ Sophos story and Perry's charge that they have 461 00:46:45,75 --> 00:46:52,05 preponderous notions one would assume that none of their steamed 462 00:46:52,07 --> 00:46:58,65 friends would have anything good to say about such people but one of more years 463 00:46:58,66 --> 00:47:04,28 most esteemed France was William Sloane Coffin who after leaving the CIA became 464 00:47:04,29 --> 00:47:09,41 famous as a preacher and anti Vietnam war activist and 465 00:47:09,42 --> 00:47:15,41 a leader of the civil rights movement more years interviewed coffin in two thousand 466 00:47:15,42 --> 00:47:22,35 and four and then spoke at his funeral in two thousand and six shortly before his 467 00:47:22,36 --> 00:47:28,54 death coffin wrote all Americans who love their country enough to dig into the 468 00:47:28,55 --> 00:47:34,36 facts of these critical times will be well rewarded by examining Professor 469 00:47:34,37 --> 00:47:37,60 Griffin's books nine eleven Truth is 470 00:47:37,61 --> 00:47:44,21 a very important issue with the power to bring lasting change to our country. 471 00:47:45,42 --> 00:47:46,41 Another Moyers 472 00:47:46,42 --> 00:47:52,58 a steamed friends whom interviewed is Joseph Huff who at the time was the president 473 00:47:52,62 --> 00:47:55,87 of Union Theological Seminary throwed 474 00:47:55,88 --> 00:48:01,16 a blurb for my first nine eleven book saying that it ought to be read by any 475 00:48:01,17 --> 00:48:08,11 American who values democracy. One of Perry's esteemed friends Israeli government 476 00:48:08,94 --> 00:48:15,93 who has the CIA analyst prepared the president's daily brief for three presidents 477 00:48:16,44 --> 00:48:22,64 and more recently founded veteran intelligent Professionals for Sanity McGovern 478 00:48:23,29 --> 00:48:30,02 wrote endorsements for two of my nine eleven books saying about one of them that he 479 00:48:30,03 --> 00:48:36,10 hoped to readers did not prefer the comfort of acquiescing to the official version 480 00:48:36,11 --> 00:48:40,60 of nine eleven and the imperial wars that it is still 481 00:48:40,61 --> 00:48:47,17 a tainted How would more years and Perry reconcile comments by these 482 00:48:47,21 --> 00:48:53,93 schemed friends with their negative treatment of truth hers I do 483 00:48:53,94 --> 00:49:00,66 not know but can we at least understand why more years and Piri develop 484 00:49:00,67 --> 00:49:06,71 such hostility to the nine eleven truth movement. Might the explanation be that the 485 00:49:06,72 --> 00:49:11,63 spin machine has been slow effective in presenting the nine eleven Truth Movement 486 00:49:11,64 --> 00:49:18,27 as kooky that Moyers and Perry simply accepted this view and never seriously looked 487 00:49:18,32 --> 00:49:23,73 at the best evidence I suspect that this is part of the evidence. 488 00:49:25,55 --> 00:49:32,48 Although Perry charged truth or as with being guilty of anti empiricism it is 489 00:49:32,49 --> 00:49:39,04 Piri and. More years who have violated the need for empiricism about nine 490 00:49:39,05 --> 00:49:44,99 eleven for which I called incidentally in the lecture I gave in Seattle in two 491 00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:51,91 thousand and seven nine eleven let's get Pyrrhic. However whereas 492 00:49:51,92 --> 00:49:58,61 more years and Piri anti empiricism about nine eleven is probably due in part to 493 00:49:58,62 --> 00:50:05,28 the spin machine this surely cannot be the whole answer period Moyer's both know 494 00:50:05,51 --> 00:50:11,91 how effective the spin machine can be with regard to any charge that would put the 495 00:50:11,92 --> 00:50:12,88 government in 496 00:50:12,89 --> 00:50:18,96 a bad light so they would know the need to get behind the spin by examining the 497 00:50:18,97 --> 00:50:25,56 best evidence for the issue at hand so why did they not do this with regard to nine 498 00:50:25,57 --> 00:50:30,34 eleven. For many journalists and other people the answer would be what I have 499 00:50:30,35 --> 00:50:35,15 called nationalist faith the mythical belief that the American government would 500 00:50:35,16 --> 00:50:41,18 never deliberately do anything terribly evil but Perry and Moyers have both 501 00:50:41,19 --> 00:50:47,77 reported stories that contradict the biggest myth we can distinguish between the 502 00:50:47,78 --> 00:50:54,39 kinds of evils they have reported and the type of enormous evil to which 503 00:50:54,40 --> 00:51:00,78 Hitler alluded in his discussion of the big lie and which he said. 504 00:51:02,14 --> 00:51:09,10 Ordinary people more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie since 505 00:51:09,11 --> 00:51:15,80 they themselves often tell small lives in little matters but would be ashamed to 506 00:51:15,81 --> 00:51:22,65 resort to large scale falsehoods it would never come into their heads 507 00:51:22,95 --> 00:51:29,39 to fabricate colossal untruth and they would not believe that others would have the 508 00:51:29,40 --> 00:51:34,66 impudence to distort the truth so in famously. 509 00:51:36,77 --> 00:51:43,52 I suspect that although Maurier's and Perry have been more than willing 510 00:51:43,57 --> 00:51:49,22 than most American journalists to expose ugly truths about American political and 511 00:51:49,23 --> 00:51:55,71 military leaders they drew the line at nine eleven. For American political leaders 512 00:51:55,72 --> 00:52:01,92 to have planned nine eleven they felt would have been so evil 513 00:52:02,82 --> 00:52:07,99 and the resulting loss I would have been so colossal that they could not believe 514 00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:14,87 that any American politicians even Bush and Cheney would have done 515 00:52:14,88 --> 00:52:20,58 it the very idea that nine eleven could have been an inside job Kerry said is 516 00:52:20,59 --> 00:52:26,96 preposterous. Any right thinking person would know this and so one 517 00:52:27,43 --> 00:52:34,14 could know the claim of the truth to be faults without delving into their arguments 518 00:52:34,95 --> 00:52:40,91 one can know all priori they seem to think the falsity of their claim that 519 00:52:40,92 --> 00:52:46,57 explosives brought down the Twin Towers and buildings that. One does not need to 520 00:52:46,58 --> 00:52:52,17 know why the buildings came down to know that they were not brought down by 521 00:52:52,18 --> 00:52:58,13 explosives because explosives would mean that it was an inside job and this idea is 522 00:52:58,26 --> 00:53:05,18 preposterous. The truth or is are so obviously wrong from their point of view 523 00:53:05,75 --> 00:53:11,29 that it is not necessary to study their writings the truth about nine eleven is 524 00:53:11,29 --> 00:53:17,43 provided by the NIST reports and the Popular Mechanics books both of which Perry 525 00:53:17,96 --> 00:53:21,69 recommended. Perhaps David Ray Griffin wrote 526 00:53:21,70 --> 00:53:26,39 a book criticizing Popular Mechanics and the NIST report on the Twin Towers and 527 00:53:26,40 --> 00:53:32,93 another entire book on building seven. More years and Perry could know 528 00:53:32,97 --> 00:53:39,30 without reading them that these books could be safely ignored. 529 00:53:41,88 --> 00:53:46,75 Perhaps more years and Piri are now aware that the nine eleven Truth Movement 530 00:53:46,76 --> 00:53:52,60 contains hundreds of architects engineers lawyers and scientists but the very fact 531 00:53:52,61 --> 00:53:57,78 that these people have become truth show that something must be wrong with their 532 00:53:57,79 --> 00:54:04,67 thought processes. This is my answer to the question why do Bill 533 00:54:04,68 --> 00:54:11,06 Moyers and Robert Perry endorse the official story about nine eleven 534 00:54:11,99 --> 00:54:18,67 even though this story implies that math the miracles occurred 535 00:54:18,93 --> 00:54:24,96 on nine eleven Perry and more years have fallen for the big lie 536 00:54:26,19 --> 00:54:32,22 whereas they would usually as Norman Solomon said about Perry follow the trail of 537 00:54:32,23 --> 00:54:38,62 truth wherever it leads more than Perry did not follow the trail of truth laid down 538 00:54:38,63 --> 00:54:43,76 by the nine eleven truth movement whereas Perry said that journalists should not 539 00:54:43,77 --> 00:54:50,70 accept pain Lee reasoning he in Moyers accepted Miss Peyton Lee 540 00:54:50,71 --> 00:54:57,64 absurd claims about the twin towers and building seven. Perry said that 541 00:54:57,68 --> 00:55:03,62 time spent on nine eleven means that real crimes get neglected. 542 00:55:05,02 --> 00:55:11,04 But nine eleven is the biggest crime in American history. 543 00:55:13,19 --> 00:55:19,80 Perry said Consortium News dot com. He started it 544 00:55:19,81 --> 00:55:25,97 because he feared that the decline of the US press corps foreshadowed disasters 545 00:55:25,98 --> 00:55:32,25 that would come when journalists failed to alert the public about impending dangers 546 00:55:32,66 --> 00:55:38,90 but Perry has not used Consortium News to inform the public about the dangers that 547 00:55:38,91 --> 00:55:45,83 will continue to grow every year that the truth about nine eleven is not exposed 548 00:55:46,76 --> 00:55:50,81 Perry rightly said that the fight for honest information is 549 00:55:50,82 --> 00:55:57,07 a battle for the future of American democracy and Moyer said that he and Bill 550 00:55:57,08 --> 00:56:01,09 Kaufman agreed a few years ago that democracy read reached 551 00:56:01,10 --> 00:56:07,84 a fork in the road one fork it is which leads to an America where military power 552 00:56:07,85 --> 00:56:13,80 serves in Pyar rather than freedom but nothing has promoted American 553 00:56:14,06 --> 00:56:20,91 imperialism and distorted American democracy more than the Big Lie about 554 00:56:20,92 --> 00:56:27,54 nine eleven an example of this big lie at work I have suggested is that even 555 00:56:27,55 --> 00:56:34,27 Bill Moyers and Robert Perry two of our best journalists fell for it 556 00:56:35,21 --> 00:56:41,14 one of the next steps for the nine eleven Truth Movement I propose. Is to focus on 557 00:56:41,15 --> 00:56:47,76 the relatively small number of journalists who are both in this country who are 558 00:56:47,77 --> 00:56:53,91 both honest and courageous trying to help them starting with more years and Perrie 559 00:56:53,92 --> 00:57:00,10 themselves to see that the nine eleven Big Law is indeed 560 00:57:00,68 --> 00:57:02,97 a law I thank you very much. 561 00:57:04,05 --> 00:57:15,25 Through 562 00:57:15,26 --> 00:57:15,58 us. 563 00:57:29,15 --> 00:57:30,15 Through.